Title: Fish-Killer Arrested
Description: Febuary 7, 2006
Sergeant Major - February 22, 2006 01:59 AM (GMT)
In Walnut Creek, CA police arrested a woman who killed a tank of exotic fish during an argument with her husband on Febuary 7, 2006.
Thirty-four-year-old Susan Goselin was arrested on suspicion of animal cruelty for dumping bleach into a 300-gallon salt water tank, filled with seven exotic tropical fish.
Goselin and her husband were arrested Friday after police responded to a domestic disturbance call. Not sure what the husband was arrested for, but probably for beating her afterward. Both posted bail and were released over the weekend.
:up: All I have to say is, it's about time fish were treated as animals with respect to the law. But I do wonder what implications that has on feeder fish. :?:
You can read the full local story
here
Polaris.northstar - February 22, 2006 05:51 AM (GMT)
How horrid! all marine fish are expensive but to do that to a whole tank....That Irks me....
Sergeant Major - February 22, 2006 11:55 AM (GMT)
Can you imagine how the husband felt? :mad:
jadefoodog - February 22, 2006 01:59 PM (GMT)
Polaris.northstar - February 22, 2006 04:22 PM (GMT)
Mitternacht - February 23, 2006 11:52 PM (GMT)
how cruel is that?! I can't believe that!!
bartier - February 24, 2006 05:20 AM (GMT)
i wonder what that was about the guy must of been really into it and his wife thought of that as a way to get back at him
FishyFry - February 24, 2006 11:08 PM (GMT)
Either that or he was spending too much time with his fish. :blink:
As for feeder fish, the concept would simulate the natural environment where one fish eats another as a matter of course. Breeding them for that purpose, brings on more questions, since the activity is not what actually takes place in nature for that purpose.
For example, if you say that feeder fish have rights, what about the brine shrimp we grow to feed our fish? Now that's one end of the spectrum... here is the other.... What about chickens, pigs, cows and other animals that are grown for food when there are other sources available?
At this point in the discussion, I won't say which side of the fence I'm on. I want to hear more from others about the "one end of the spectrum or the other". The question is and always will be, "where do you draw the line". It is not in the same place for everyone.
Are there other examples of animals being raised for food for consumption by other animals?
Cichlid Commander - February 24, 2006 11:22 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (jadefoodog @ Feb 22 2006, 08:59 AM) |
| id have beat her too |
I agree with jade, I would definately get arrested also. :mad:
r33f-boy - February 25, 2006 03:54 AM (GMT)
Maybe she was jealous that he loved his fish more then her :P She might be like "If I cant love you, then ur fish can't!" :lol:
r33f-boy - February 25, 2006 03:56 AM (GMT)
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| But I do wonder what implications that has on feeder fish. |
Ah!!! Don't arrest me next! I use roseys as feeders to feed my piranah! :huh:
bartier - February 26, 2006 10:24 AM (GMT)
well i just consider it a new kind of food chain except we are at the bottom i mean think about it we clean up after them and feed them
r33f-boy - February 26, 2006 04:00 PM (GMT)
Sergeant Major - February 26, 2006 04:01 PM (GMT)
My cat get's jealous of my fish. When I'm feeding them, she demands attention, when the rest of the time, she could care less. My wife used to get jealous of the time I spend working on the forum, and spending on the fish... until I started keeping cichlids, now she's as into it as I am.
EDIT: My wife wanted me to include that it also had something to do with me quitting smoking to afford the hobby.
As far as another animal that raises it's food, I can think of only one other... the killer whale. Durring seal mating season, the seal pups become the primary food source for the killer whales. They will attack and eat the pups as they enter the water... but each year, they will take several seal pups, and instead of eating them, will take them in their mouths, and return them back to shore to perpetuate the species. I think that will be about the closest nature can come to another animal raising it's food.
Leema - February 27, 2006 07:03 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sergeant Major @ Feb 26 2006, 11:01 AM) |
| EDIT: My wife wanted me to include that it also had something to do with me quitting smoking to afford the hobby. |
Another way pets are good for you? :D :up:
Ants raise aphids as food. They farm them. (A certain species of ant. A certain species of aphid.)
Sergeant Major - March 1, 2006 04:40 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Leema @ Feb 27 2006, 07:03 AM) |
| Ants raise aphids as food. They farm them. (A certain species of ant. A certain species of aphid.) |
Good call! I have some of them out on my willow tree last year... they are a real pain, too... killing my willow tree off, slowly. This year I might lay down some DE around the tree to keep the ants away, with them away, the ladybugs will eat the aphids, and all will be well again. :rolleyes:
bartier - March 1, 2006 06:08 AM (GMT)
hope that turns out alright for you Sgt Mjr
jdizine - March 4, 2006 05:34 AM (GMT)
SM, just build yourself a bathouse! They are very fun to watch and will take care of the problem.
On the fish note though, I learned from my son that my ex flushed my weather loaches (misgurnus angullicaudatus), and others... HE then decided to KEEP my pirahna and JD! (alot of foul language).
I am just now am starting fresh again after 10 years. My son is now taking care of the fish I had. At least they are still alive!
Anything done in spite should be treated as spite.
We raise animals to feed ourselves to survive, that is not spite.
That is staying alive.
And if there were no other sources, anyone would do the same thing!
Including eating another human. That is a fact, and though it is hard to think about, you'll never know unless you experience the situation.
debisbooked - March 4, 2006 09:39 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (FishyFry @ Feb 24 2006, 06:08 PM) |
.. What about chickens, pigs, cows and other animals that are grown for food when there are other sources available?
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We need to start thinking about animal rights issues if that is what we want to call it. Food is one thing, but over consumption is another. If we each had to go out and kill our own cow and dress it ourselves I am confident we would see a lot less of animal consumption.
Sergeant Major - March 4, 2006 09:46 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (debisbooked @ Mar 4 2006, 09:39 PM) |
| We need to start thinking about animal rights issues if that is what we want to call it. Food is one thing, but over consumption is another. If we each had to go out and kill our own cow and dress it ourselves I am confident we would see a lot less of animal consumption. |
Well that's for sure, but mostly because we're too lazy. If we each had to get our own food either by picking fruits/vegetables or meat through fishing/hunting/raising animals... there would be a lot of people who would starve before putting forth the effort to do either.
Leema - March 4, 2006 11:17 PM (GMT)
I don't believe in the slaughter of animals for food in a country where fruit and vegetables, alternatives to meat, are abundant. I believe that animal life is to be respected. Yes, they are food, but why bother killing something when you can get your nutrition from a non-dead source?
I'm vegetarian, if you didn't gather. :)
Mitternacht - March 4, 2006 11:25 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (debisbooked @ Mar 4 2006, 09:39 PM) |
| QUOTE (FishyFry @ Feb 24 2006, 06:08 PM) |
.. What about chickens, pigs, cows and other animals that are grown for food when there are other sources available?
|
We need to start thinking about animal rights issues if that is what we want to call it. Food is one thing, but over consumption is another. If we each had to go out and kill our own cow and dress it ourselves I am confident we would see a lot less of animal consumption.
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good point!
you know what chickens go through in their life?! Its really sick to see!! :angry:
week 1week 2week 3week 4week 5week 6week 7catching and trasportslaughter| QUOTE |
| Some birds miss the blades that cut their throats and enter scalding tanks while fully conscious. |
sick!! not good. :(

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I don't believe in the slaughter of animals for food in a country where fruit and vegetables, alternatives to meat, are abundant. I believe that animal life is to be respected. Yes, they are food, but why bother killing something when you can get your nutrition from a non-dead source?
I'm vegetarian, if you didn't gather. |
That's a good point too. Here's something from Nat'l Geographic.
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| Compared to meat eaters, vegetarians experience significantly lower rates of heart disease, some cancers, and other health problems. |
and here's something else...
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Think Fish Is a Health Food? Think Again.
Fish live in water that is so polluted, you would never dream of drinking it. But you’re ingesting this toxic brew—bacteria, contaminants, heavy metals and all—every time you eat fish.
Researchers at the University of Illinois found that fish-eaters with high levels of PCBs in their blood have difficulty recalling information they have learned just 30 minutes earlier.
Fish’s bodies absorb toxic chemicals in the water around them, and the chemicals become more concentrated as they move up the food chain. Big fish eat little fish, with the bigger fish (such as tuna and salmon) absorbing chemicals from all the other fish they eat. Fish flesh stores contaminants, such as PCBs, which cause liver damage, nervous system disorders, and fetal damage; dioxins, also linked to cancer; radioactive substances like strontium 90; and other dangerous contaminants like cadmium, mercury, lead, chromium, and arsenic, which can cause health problems ranging from kidney damage and impaired mental development to cancer. These toxins are stored in the body fat of humans who eat fish and remain in their bodies for decades.
Seafood is the number one cause of food poisoning in the United States. Seafood poisoning can result in extreme discomfort, kidney damage, nervous system damage, and even death. Seafood is also the number one cause of food poisoning in the United States. Many of our waterways are polluted with human and animal feces, and this waste carries dangerous bacteria like E. coli. So when we eat fish, we are exposing ourselves to the unnecessary risk of contracting a nasty bacterial illness that can lead to mild to extreme discomfort, nervous system damage, and even death.
According to a report by the General Accounting Office, the seafood industry is dangerously underregulated. In fact, the Food and Drug Administration doesn’t even bother to test most fish flesh for many well-known chemical and bacterial health hazards. |
Leema - March 5, 2006 04:14 AM (GMT)
:sick: I was never a fan of seafood when I was a meat-eater.
The transport of chooks before they're slaughtered is awful. I believe something like 40% arrive at the slaughter house with broken bones from transport.
How can people live with themselves, doing this job?
Mitternacht - March 5, 2006 04:18 AM (GMT)
:o!!! that makes me want to throw up!!! :sick: