POINTS OF ORIGINS with Dr. Jackson
Thanks to creationists Karl Priest & John Heffner for tip-offs leading to this Dr J mind-storm!!

This is ... humongous !!

First ...
Check out Wikipedia about tracking down the human "Y-chromosome Adam."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Adam
It says "Adam" lived sometime between 60,000 and 90,000 years ago.
It says "mitochondrial DNA Eve" was 30,000 years older than that.
Second ...
Check out this article in Science, on the "mitochondrial clock" method.
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/279/5347/28 (Science, 1/2/98, vol 279, p28-9)
It says the the "clock" may be 20 times faster, than previously thought!
-- [Doh!] --
Third ...
do the math!
Correcting by a factor of 20, that gives Y-Adam a max age of 4500 years ago.
( 90,000 / 20 = 4500 )
The same correction gives mito-Eve a max age of 6000 years! Whoa!!
( 90,000 + 30,000 / 20 = 6000 )
That nails Eve down at the Biblical time-frame! ... of 6010 years ago!
But what about Adam?? Think.
Genetic "clock" methods work, by comparing mutations of all living DNA. (... this is great!)
On the Ark, there were four gene pools ... Noah's family, and his three sons' wives.
( DNA research confirms ... all living humans descend from exactly four gene pools. )
Today, in Y-analysis, we are contrasting men whose Y's all come from one man.
But it's not Adam -- [doh!] -- it's Noah!
That puts the Flood at 4500 years ago, by the Y-clock!
But does it run the same as the mito-clock?
Evo's say Y's the fastest mutating chromosome ... to self-destruct in 10,000 years!
Maybe it's a little different ... since the Flood did happen 4354 years ago!!
Oh man !! It all adds up !! Whew -- I'm tapped -- must take nap now. Bye -- Doc Jay.

Fellow creationists on this list -- check me on this -- but I think we've gott'em -- again!!

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The creationists may have the evolutionists there, but the world will never know until the creationists learn to cite their sources a little better...

Nice job, I want his job. 5 minutes of "work" and you can take the rest of the day off... (sounds like someone we both know)... how much do we pay him again?

Noah makes more sense... you wipe out the entire population except who's on the boat and who else could it be... at least the second time around anyway. ;)

Well, no body pays him. He actually runs his ministry based on donations. The guy is real nice. I have been to his seminar before. He travels for the majority of the year doing seminars all over the country.

I pray for him a lot, becuase like other non-profit organizations, he reveals his financial information. Him and his wife actully lived off around $11,000 dollars last year. I am not sure I could swing that!

Here is his Bio from his website:

Dr. Jackson's Biography

Dr. G. C. Jackson has his bachelor's degree in Biology, a master's in Science Education, and a master's in Environmental Biology from George Mason University. He earned his doctorate in Science Education at University of Virginia.

He has taught science or education courses at both public and private schools to students in kindergarten through university level. His positions since 1980 have included five high schools, six community colleges, four colleges, and two universities ... in Virginia, Maryland, Vermont, and Tennessee.

Dr. Jackson is a charter member of the East Tennessee Creation Science Association and a lifetime member of the Creation Research Society.

He has been speaking to churches and school groups on this topic since 1975.

Dr. Jackson has taught Creation Science courses over the Internet to home school groups and has done creation workshops for teacher groups in East Tennessee and Venezuela.

Articles and presentations by him and about him have been in newspapers, television, and radio in East Tennessee and Venezuela.

He spoke on the topic "Evolution in Tennessee: Let's Teach it as a Controversy" at the Fourth Tennessee Regional Math & Science Summit held at University of Tennessee in Knoxville, August 2000.

He is also known for having debated evolutionist professors in East Tennessee.

In July 2000, Dr. Jackson was invited to do a lecture tour of Venezuela, speaking (through an interpreter) at 2 universities, 2 colleges, 5 high schools, and 5 churches. He was invited back to Venezuela in February 2001 to speak at the meeting of the National Baptist Convention of Venezuela.

Here is a follow up email from Dr. Jackson:

Dear Readers,
The somewhat sensational post I sent last week (see below) on the DNA studies placing Eve at 4000 BC and the Flood at 2500 BC, did have something I had overlooked.
A youth pastor in Goshen, Indiana pointed this out to me. Thanks Darin!

The Y-chromosome study, statistically dates the time of the divergence of masculine DNA ... not the time of the Flood! And that divergence ... occurred during the time after Noah's 500th birthday, and before the Flood ... when his three sons were born. I had worried some that the Flood was 4354 yrs ago while the Y-date gave 4500 yrs ago.

The 146 year difference, would really not be a problem because --- the Y chromosome date would naturally be a statistical average of the birthdates of Noah's sons Ham, Shem, & Japheth --- which were all seem to be born between 2454 BC and 2354 BC. The only nail-down date I could find in the Bible was Shem's birth, at 2452 BC, 98 yrs before the Flood.

So, the Y-date is for the average birth-years of the three boys ... not for the date of the Flood. So that makes the Y-date of 4500 yrs ago ... better than I thought! Instead of being as much as 146 yrs off ... it's really more like only about 50 yrs off! Amen.
Thanks again, brother Darin! I hadn't thought about that! Dr J

PS - I've gotten emails reminding me that this whole thing is based on hypothetical assumptions -- anyway -- like that mutation rates remain the same. The DNA theory should definitely give you relative dates ... but really cannot give you absolute dates.

POINTS OF ORIGINS with Dr. Jackson
10/25/06 annual meeting of the Geological Society of America, in Philadelphia

A U-Wyo evo pointed to fresh emu tracks and said, "Everything we see in this track can be found in the fossil record." (Lexington Herald-Leader, 2/1/07, pC8) The article says emu tracks show "remarkable similarities" to tracks of "a mysterious dinosaur species from the mid-Jurassic." Says U-Wyo, "If we ever do find the bones, it will be new to science." The tracks look exactly like emu tracks. Maybe they're (I dunno) emu tracks? But evo says emu's weren't in the Jurassic so ... they can't be emu tracks -- anything but ... 'cuz evo-theory can't be wrong!? Get a clue, evo's! Oh wait ... you just did ... and it didn't matter. Dr J

You better not be talking about me.

HA HA ... no not you, or sharon, or steve,... :lol:

POINTS OF ORIGINS with Dr. Charles Jackson

After the Flood, tons of dead stuff would've washed into the oceans and rotted ... using up the oxygen in the water. Lots'a life would've died from this, but anything with two left could've avoided extinction. Is there any sign of this O2 depletion? Yes.
"during the Aption epoch [layer] of the Cretaceous period [layer], huge quatitities of
organic material fell to the ocean floor, depleting the oxygen in the ocean ...
reduced atmospheric carbon ... tended to cool the climate ... occurred so suddenly"
(Science News, 10/7/06, p230)
This organic layer is before the top-end of the dinosaur layer, but then dino's did live higher up in elevation at the time of the Flood, too. And the cooling the article mentioned could've triggered the 300-yr Ice Age, too. Think about it. Dr J